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Old 11-02-2012, 05:52 AM
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I've just recently purchased a unmolested, early production built 1970 Formula 400 (Build date 2/26/1970 ... interestingly the car has no Formula 400 Badges, nor does it show any signs of ever having badges fitted to the car? Any ideas?

Also, PHS documents are showing that the car was "consigned under bulletin agreement dated December, 23 1969." but I'm not too sure what this means? If anyone can shed some light that would be much appreciated..

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Post a copy of the PHS and someone here will be able to figure out what it means. Pictures are always good

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Same with mine, not sure if the badges were there or not it was 16 years ago when I owned it. Was yours a Van Nuys car? Does it have a metal tail panel? What does the underside of your hood look like? Bracing/no bracing, notches?
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Firstly we just purchased the car from Texas, and currently at Restore a Muscle Car Nebraska, but I know it's a Van Nuys car .. hood no bracing but has notches .. not sure regarding tail panel...

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Same with mine, not sure if the badges were there or not it was 16 years ago when I owned it. Was yours a Van Nuys car? Does it have a metal tail panel? What does the underside of your hood look like? Bracing/no bracing, notches?
whos that young guy holding the baby?

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what is the build date on the cowl tag? Maybe the car was built earlier and held for some reason since it has the verbage on the PHS about the consignment agreement. I think that agreement was for cars built prior to the official release date saying that the dealers were not supposed to show or sell the cars until the official release date.

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A much younger and more naive version of me.

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A much younger and more naive version of me.

I bought that 70 TA for $1,100 from the Buick Zone rep for Westchester county - it only had 38,000 miles on it but had been left outside.

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what is the build date on the cowl tag? Maybe the car was built earlier and held for some reason since it has the verbage on the PHS about the consignment agreement. I think that agreement was for cars built prior to the official release date saying that the dealers were not supposed to show or sell the cars until the official release date.
The car was sold new from Don Turpin Pontiac CA, Protecto Plate has a date 02-26-70. It is in storage till next year, for the Bandit Run, so I can't physically check the cowl tag right now .. Interesting about the agreement ..The missing forumal badges are still a mystery?

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There has been some talk of the missing badges here on the board, but I'm not sure where to look for them. That car I had has now been restored by the guy I sold it to, with a bazillion options added and the emblems are on it now. What kind of mirrors are on your car - body colored sport ones or the chrome one? Mine was chrome.
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http://www.forums.maxperformanceinc....d.php?t=696395

Yours must be an early car too. What is the date shipped from PHS?

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my mirrors are body colour sports ... yes it is an early date built car .. ship date 02-1970, date of draft 03-18-70, date of execution 02-26-70 ... still has original walnut gear stick knob ..

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Yours must be an early car too. What is the date shipped from PHS?
Is the car that's the subject of this post the same as in the link above?
I seem to recall seeing it for sale in Texas recently... pretty original car with a nose that had been chewed on by prior owner's dog?

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Nose cone was chewed by a dog, but not sure about the link above.If anyone has more information about this car it would be great know.

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I wonder if it's because they wanted to make sure none were sold/shown before the Norwood Firebirds?

My early Formula doesn't have that written on it, but it's a Norwood car.



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just remembered this post, my first GTO had the "consigned to..." wording on the PHS that I ordered a few years back. My friend Rick that replied about halfway down the page is a long time GM employee and explained it pretty well: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=492441

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Nose cone was chewed by a dog, but not sure about the link above.If anyone has more information about this car it would be great know.
Same car then. It was on eBay a few months ago and the seller had claimed that really early Formulas didn't have the Formula 400 badges on the fenders. I had never heard that before, so was asking if anyone else here had heard or observed that.

It seems no one else can really confirm it, either, so my sense is that maybe this car just inadvertently got built without them (or lost them at some point in its life). Since it was an early build car, there was probably a greater chance of this sort of assembly line mistake (the mistake would probably have been that it got the wrong fenders, so no holes for the emblem when it came time to put the emblem on ....).

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