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#141
12-13-2012, 07:12 PM
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Steve, maybe I should not have assumed on that phs, was it a race car?
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1969 GTO 4spd. Antique Gold/black, gold int. 1969 GTO RAIII 4spd. Verdoro Green/black, black int. 1969 GTO 4spd. Crystal Turquoise, black int. 1970 GTO 4spd VOE Pepper Green, green int. 1967 LeMans 428 Auto. Blue, black int. |
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#142
12-13-2012, 07:12 PM
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I respect everyones opinions and views on that type subject. However to remind folks - the first 2000 initial Pre-Built Judges in 69 ALL had righteous performance appearance handling steering braking options... and hood tachs with gauges - take it or leave it was the deal until after mid February. Similar to 2nd Gen TA's marketing. And at that time of release - it was unknown if they would even sell them all. Much less produce more. The only thing missing on those were IV engines. Which weren't released yet anyway. Otherwise they were full ticket performance package. I don't think nearly as many would have been sold if that content and color had remained a requisite. Pontiac probably had that same notion. Its release and initial offering was pretty full tilt. Those cars set the stage. Gets too involved to split all the hairs after that. Turning the Judge into an "adjustable content" helped more sell. Like the one that Steve posted. That buyer might not have been able or willing to make it happen for almost $4300 on a Pattern Car. But for $3600 he was driving a new Carousel Red Judge with WS Ram Air. For $3250 he would have gotten something more similar to this Limelight GTO with a WT and dual snorkel breather. He got more performance and more appearance. More 1st and early 2nd Gen TA's would have likely been sold if their content had more adjustability as well. Its all in how each person chooses to view it. i respect that. But personally would categorize them right with most all the others mentioned. with Hurst/Olds being a possible exception. You could option a GTO to have everything of a Judge except the appearance features. You could option a Formula to have everything of a TA except appearance. But i wouldn't ask a TA to step down because of that. They just evolved in different ways. The Judge downscaled a little, the TA upscaled a little. Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 12-13-2012 at 07:24 PM. |
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#143
12-13-2012, 07:21 PM
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1 of the Original First 2000 Judges
(excluding tranny choice and/or AC) 99.x % either got the exact equipment as this - or they got no judge at all - in the onset |
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#144
12-13-2012, 07:54 PM
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The original owner said the car sat on the dealers lot in Branson for a long time. When he bought it, it had a radio and trim rings. The dealer most likely added them to move the car. Scott |
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12-13-2012, 07:57 PM
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12-13-2012, 08:21 PM
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#147
12-13-2012, 10:12 PM
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Branson caught my attention big time, a crying shame the dealer added stuff but who was to know any different back then. |
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#148
12-13-2012, 11:44 PM
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12-14-2012, 12:01 AM
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#150
12-14-2012, 12:17 AM
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Will Gary not sell either of you guys the Blue Auto Deuce ?
It sounds like a lil better car than the Green one. or lemme guess - both of you are hooked dead solid on VooDoo Green i've got invoices on 2-3 other zero and 1 option Judges. wildest one is zero option 70 GTO from Monk King ..... blank sheet ... just blank lol |
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#151
12-14-2012, 07:54 AM
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#152
12-14-2012, 07:56 AM
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Gary,
Congratulations on the car - it deserves to be brought back and hopefully the new owner will do it justice. If he's not a member here, suggest he join and keep us posted. A detailed restoration thread is just what that car needs to shut-up all the naysayers! Chris
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#153
12-30-2012, 01:49 PM
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the judge is gone
another missed oppurtunity back to the clone registry i must go, boss are you joining me
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#154
12-30-2012, 01:56 PM
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#155
12-30-2012, 07:46 PM
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#156
03-07-2013, 12:16 AM
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hey guys, the guy who purchased my 69 judge convert is getting ready to attack it and try to have it finished to take to the convention in a few months. he knows it is going to really be pushing it, but is going to try anyway.. what he needs is a YZ code block that is dated K xx 8 or maybe a L xx 8. it is a baltimore built car and the heads and intake that were with it were K xx 8 dates. if anyone has something or even any YZ code block let me know and i will pass the info on to him. thanks in advance.
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#157
03-07-2013, 08:13 AM
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Not many could do that work that rapid.
Almost makes me think i know who bought it ... ... |
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03-07-2013, 08:22 AM
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#159
03-07-2013, 08:39 AM
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the crystal clone king?
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#160
03-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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Unless it is a TV show deadline (not covention quality IMHO)...Why rush it???
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