[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

Does the 5k top end include that pretty looking intake on top of his engine?

NO, the 5k was with the crappy looking intake that ran the same as the pretty looking intake, any other questions?

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by slowbird

what did Quin run @ Norwalk vs Kinsler same track same day, makes for a nice comparison except Kinsler was at least 350lbs heavier.

I'm just curious. What is the answer to this?

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Reread your posts genius. The second one clearly says"if YOU want to spend 12k and weigh 200 more lbs TO RUN HIGH 8'S thats your business" Those were not my only choices as i got there spending less than quinn and 12,000. So either i spent $12000 or found another way....hum you look not smart right now.

When you 'WANT' something does that usually mean you already have it? You DS

[goatracer]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Yeah, you've been missing all kinds of posts by them in many threads where they continue to trash you and your engine, welcome back.

Nah, I've been lurking all this time. I've seen all the posts. Personally, it don't bother me, I don't care. It made what it made and ran what it ran.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

I'm just curious. What is the answer to this?

I dont know, he ran in the 8's at other tracks in hot summer air while jeff was running in the 9's at other tracks in hot air according to Leech, hope this helps.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by goatracer

Nah, I've been lurking all this time. I've seen all the posts. Personally, it don't bother me, I don't care. It made what it made and ran what it ran.

Glad to hear that, yeah what people say doesn't really matter, only truth matters in the end.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

When you 'WANT' something does that usually mean you already have it? You DS

You are really hurting my feelings. It hurts even worse coming from someone as smart and emotionally stable as you are....

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by mike leech

all sub 9s all year

Genius...sub 9s is a LOWER number than 9...like 8s....WOW i actually think you are getting....more not smart....as we do this. catch up would you!

[Hooter]

God, guess I gotta get in here now and defend my buddy Larry. His car is 484ci and weighs around 2975(can't remember for sure since its been 2 years since we scaled it). He didn't run at Norwalk last year. The year before he ran low 9's. Found out clutch was gone in it(I set the clutch so I know it was out of adjustment). Don't think he ran the year before. He's been high 8's there in the past. I've seen it run 8.80's before and think he ran a 8.70's in good air(I didn't witness). All these times with monster wheel stands. We're hoping we can both switch from afb's to Holleys this year.

All this said, you guys can stop dragging his car through the mud as I've pretty much summarized what y'all need to know. Larry is a showman more concerned with pleasing the crowd rather than the fastest ET. At 64 years old, id like to think he's deserved the respect to be left alone on here. He's happy with his heads and to me that's all that counts in my book.

[goatracer]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

ONOTHEPHUCKTHATCHITJUSTDIDN'THAPPEN!

That's pretty stand up of you Bryan.

Happy new year Jack,

Well, I'm not picking sides or trying to throwing gas on the fire, that's what the parts cost. As we all know, horsepower costs money. I anybody looking to make 1000hp or better should expect to pay the same or more, no matter what head package you chose.

Bryan

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by john marcella

When someone buys a set of heads, what are they really buying? A set of heads or horsepower???????? I say HP. So when you look at it like that how is the bang for the buck?

I still say bang for the buck is warp 6, but no one else seems to think so.

This would be the design I would like to see on a Pontiac Engine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBxVPOCrznQ

Funny thing is by moving only the lower center head bolt location on a dry deck IA-2 block you can actually screw the SOHC head down as the bore spacing is identical (with-in .005") of a normal Pontiac block. Course you would have to do some work on modding the SOHC timing cover to allow it to be used on the Pontiac block but all of the SOHC parts ARE available. (And probably cheaper vs the Warp 6 Heads and other parts.)

Tom Vaught

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by Hooter

God, guess I gotta get in here now and defend my buddy Larry. His car is 484ci and weighs around 2975(can't remember for sure since its been 2 years since we scaled it). He didn't run at Norwalk last year. The year before he ran low 9's. Found out clutch was gone in it(I set the clutch so I know it was out of adjustment). Don't think he ran the year before. He's been high 8's there in the past. I've seen it run 8.80's before and think he ran a 8.70's in good air(I didn't witness). All these times with monster wheel stands. We're hoping we can both switch from afb's to Holleys this year.

All this said, you guys can stop dragging his car through the mud as I've pretty much summarized what y'all need to know. Larry is a showman more concerned with pleasing the crowd rather than the fastest ET. At 64 years old, id like to think he's deserved the respect to be left alone on here. He's happy with his heads and to me that's all that counts in my book.

Hooter I agree

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Hooter

God, guess I gotta get in here now and defend my buddy Larry. His car is 484ci and weighs around 2975(can't remember for sure since its been 2 years since we scaled it). He didn't run at Norwalk last year. The year before he ran low 9's. Found out clutch was gone in it(I set the clutch so I know it was out of adjustment). Don't think he ran the year before. He's been high 8's there in the past. I've seen it run 8.80's before and think he ran a 8.70's in good air(I didn't witness). All these times with monster wheel stands. We're hoping we can both switch from afb's to Holleys this year.

All this said, you guys can stop dragging his car through the mud as I've pretty much summarized what y'all need to know. Larry is a showman more concerned with pleasing the crowd rather than the fastest ET. At 64 years old, id like to think he's deserved the respect to be left alone on here. He's happy with his heads and to me that's all that counts in my book.

To be clear i really like larry's car and said as much. The point was not to drag him in. More to call GGTo on his assumptions about his revered heads capabilities. Absolutely NO disrespect was intended for him. I would however love to see him add the weight and run. Thanks for the post

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by goatracer

Happy new year Jack,

Well, I'm not picking sides or trying to throwing gas on the fire, that's what the parts cost. As we all know, horsepower costs money. I anybody looking to make 1000hp or better should expect to pay the same or more, no matter what head package you chose.

Bryan

^^^^^^^WINNER^^^^^^^

[Ron H]

[QUOTE=twinturrbo406;4820671]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



... you need to read this again Dan ... and anyone else that doesnt want to believe it ... his words, not mine ...

You twist around worse than Obama. What is wrong with what he said? It is true...

Yet for some reason you think Gaby should not be able to charge 12 grand or more for what he is selling? Is there something wrong with that?

Damn you are a hypocrite Bill. I bet you would charge 5000 to port a CV-1 top end to make 1000+ HP if you could do it.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Genius...sub 9s is a LOWER number than 9...like 8s....WOW i actually think you are getting....more not smart....as we do this. catch up would you!

well?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

Does the 5k top end include that pretty looking intake on top of his engine?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

WINING!

[Hooter]

Originally Posted by mike leech

To be clear i really like larry's car and said as much. The point was not to drag him in. More to call GGTo on his assumptions about his revered heads capabilities. Absolutely NO disrespect was intended for him. I would however love to see him add the weight and run. Thanks for the post

Id like to see him do it too, but we're locked in running the nostalgia program there and not allowed to run the regular classes. Heck, I'd love to throw Bills 434 in my car and run the class but there's too much to change on my car to do that also.

[LiL Jack]

[QUOTE=Ron H;4820968]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

You twist around worse than Obama. What is wrong with what he said? It is true...

Yet for some reason you think Gaby should not be able to charge 12 grand or more for what he is selling? Is there something wrong with that?

Damn you are a hypocrite Bill. I bet you would charge 5000 to port a CV-1 top end to make 1000+ HP if you could do it.

Maybe both of them are racist against Puerto Ricans?

[Ron H]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Yes I agree, so will you be saving 12k or 7k for eheads or 4k for cv1's that can do the same thing as the more expensive eheads?

WTF? DaftGTO, WTF? Where do you come up with, 4K for CV-1's that can do the same thing?

THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM right here.

Bill care to comment on how everyone is bashing you two poor innocent souls?