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Old 07-18-2013, 02:58 PM
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... working on it Jeff ...
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... WOW ...

... I do like how he thinks since the very first day Roland got his hands on a casting, they were under "Development", lol the actual time the CV-1 was available, was March of 2008, which by my CV-1 Calculator is a little over 5 years ...

... The Race Shop released it's CNC CV-1 based on a porters casting mid-2009, which actually flowed 385cfm by the way, which most people do not consider to be any kind of development for this head ...

... my work did not really begin until 2010, and even then it pales in comparison to what has happened in the last year ...
With all the plugging I did back then and ALL the customers I sent him. I got nothing out of the deal. Moved a lot of Product back then in Roland's direction.

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We wasted 2 years waiting on you to do something with em. You may be a good engine builder, but as we all now know you really aren't capable to do r&d work. You're much better at picking up the phone and using someone else's product. You and your brother from another mother Lou are the biggest detriment to these heads. BTW you are the ONLY ONE to go slower with these heads. Just sayin
I was there when Ken was trying to sort these out. We tried different cams, converters, gears, hell even transmissions.
The simple FACT was the set of CV1's that Ken had sucked. You can only throw so much time and money at a turd. He tried a set of Dave's off the shelf heads and the car went quicker.
That was called a TEST, as in back to back testing, kind of like Dick just did.

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I would like to see a set of CV1 go 7s in my lifetime!


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I would like to see a set of CV1 go 7s in my lifetime!


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I was there when Ken was trying to sort these out. We tried different cams, converters, gears, hell even transmissions.
The simple FACT was the set of CV1's that Ken had sucked. You can only throw so much time and money at a turd. He tried a set of Dave's off the shelf heads and the car went quicker.
That was called a TEST, as in back to back testing, kind of like Dick just did.
Sorry Dave, but throwing money at cams, gears, convertors, and transmissions don't do a damn thing to the heads. I know when I'm trying to figure out a rear gear combo I don't get a valve job done. I said R&D work on the heads. Not the combo.

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I would like to see a set of CV1 go 7s in my lifetime!


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How long has it taken to get the e-heads in the 7's?
by the same logic....the e heads came out in the mid 90's...I'm thinkin' 1995....so....15 years???

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How long has it taken to get the e-heads in the 7's?
by the same logic....the e heads came out in the mid 90's...I'm thinkin' 1995....so....15 years???
you drinking tonight???
how long ago did butlers go 7s? David did it with e heads with his 96 trans am a long time ago.

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A well put together turbo combo isn't going to care what heads are on the engine.
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you drinking tonight???
how long ago did butlers go 7s? David did it with e heads with his 96 trans am a long time ago.

EHTTFMF!!!
Haven't had a drop.....just askin'....how long?
simple question, really.

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When did YOU start running FAST with them, Jeff?

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Did a little homework.
Jack never broke into the 7's until 2012 (10/13/2012).....1995 till 2012 is 17 years.......so by the logic that the CV-1 head has been out for 7 years....it took Jack 17 years to make E heads go in the 7's.

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How long did it take you to get them to do what they're doin' for ya right now?.....yearwise? 1995 till ??????

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Sorry Dave, but throwing money at cams, gears, convertors, and transmissions don't do a damn thing to the heads. I know when I'm trying to figure out a rear gear combo I don't get a valve job done. I said R&D work on the heads. Not the combo.
So you're saying that when you buy their "race ready" heads you need to touch up the ports, change out the valves and springs and do a valve job?

Damn, no wonder no one is racing with them...

Funny, Dave's heads worked as is.

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Jeff paved the way!

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Did a little homework.
Jack never broke into the 7's until 2012 (10/13/2012).....1995 till 2012 is 17 years.......so by the logic that the CV-1 head has been out for 7 years....it took Jack 17 years to make E heads go in the 7's.
The technology is here today to make it easier to go faster then years ago.

It helps to have a knowledgeable nvine builder to accomplish this goal.

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E-heads 17 years waiting on technology.
Cv-1's 7 years waiting on the ecomony.

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Ahh, the "bad economy" excuse again...

It's not bad for everyone. I am so busy I hired another employee two months ago.

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Sorry Dave, but throwing money at cams, gears, convertors, and transmissions don't do a damn thing to the heads. I know when I'm trying to figure out a rear gear combo I don't get a valve job done. I said R&D work on the heads. Not the combo.

Another No nothing about what the deal was back then with Roland Racing. Load your phuckin brain before ya shoot off your mouth. I've had enough of opinions without any clue what the deal was. Had nothing to do with working the heads. It was supposed to be a swap to see what difference the CV-1's made over E-heads basically out or the box for the money spent!!!!!!!!!!
I did have to really work the intake (one of the first one's off the presses) thou to just get it to work.

The deal was .................... Out of the Box heads and see what they will do. Yo duh.

Get you facts straight before ya shoot off your mouth. Another he said, she said rumor monger.
I didn't get to do R & D as I was hung out to dry when I was stepping up to the next phase of the CV-1 race program. PERIOD.

If they are your wet dream, then go fer it.

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E-heads 17 years waiting on technology.
Cv-1's 7 years waiting on the ecomony.
are you drinking tonight? that doesn't even make sense

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