[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

I like to think that the M/T hemi heads did- the only Pontiac to ever take Top Eliminator at an NHRA Nationals. I consider that a "record".

MTHHTTFMF!

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Fast 69

Porting is allowed in Super Stock class so those heads aren't "as cast" either.



QUOTE=PAUL K;5434533]Factory cast heads have in Super Stock... just saying.

[/QUOTE]

They have changed rules over the years. There have been a lot of "as cast" factory heads win races and set records.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Money Pit

I don't believe Jack did it but once. Ed McGuinn has done it multiple times and not on the east coast. And on one kit.

Is Ed the gentleman with the Ehead powered, dark colored 79 Trans Am?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Is Ed the gentleman with the Ehead powered, dark colored 79 Trans Am?

Yes

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twooldgoats

Maybe you should save some space for spare parts.

Jim

The new motor has been great this year. Taking baby steps with the tune up then adding more power figuring out the chassis, transmission and rear gear ratio that has been the hard work.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

Back to the thread topic...how many of you think, regardless of the outcome of the race that most, at least those that posted in this thread, will not change their opinions.

You may be right on that point.
However, it would be interesting to see some NA passes on both combos. Seems a lot of non believers of Fulton's NA HP. No one with a Pontiac that I'm aware of has made 1100 plus HP NA at 13:1 compression. Little Jacks NA base power ???
Would be interesting to see how much power adder they added.
Possibly some opinions might change then.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

You may be right on that point.
However, it would be interesting to see some NA passes on both combos. Seems a lot of non believers of Fulton's NA HP. No one with a Pontiac that I'm aware of has made 1100 plus HP NA at 13:1 compression. Little Jacks NA base power ???
Would be interesting to see how much power adder they added.
Possibly some opinions might change then.

You can't compare Power added engines without the power adder...........that would be silly. The engines are made for the PA addition. I would like to see at least 6-8 runs at Norwalk from BOTH these cars without any problems.........then I will be IMPRESSED!! I hope both cars run well and have NO problems.........we'll see.


GTO George

[goatracer]

Yep, like George said, them racing na is pointless. Running a nitrous car na with any converter specd for a heavy hit will only bring naysayers rushing to Wallace calculator and calling bs. Best to line em up spray to spray and runwhatya brung.

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

Back to the thread topic...how many of you think, regardless of the outcome of the race that most, at least those that posted in this thread, will not change their opinions.

I can't afford either head so my opinion won't matter.LOL

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by goatracer

Yep, like George said, them racing na is pointless. Running a nitrous car na with any converter specd for a heavy hit will only bring naysayers rushing to Wallace calculator and calling bs. Best to line em up spray to spray and runwhatya brung.

I agree racing each other NA is a waste of time. That wasnt what I would like to see.
I know the ET would be down because of convertor etc.. MPH down some maybe but possibly closer to gauging NA power than ET would be.

In a MUCH slower car my mph stayed pretty close to best as I dialed convertor, gears, chassis, and launch and eventually ET'd what my mph indicated it should. Without touching engine or its tune ET dropped nearly .3 while mph barely gained.

I hear you on the rush to Wallaces calculator. Some will be going there regardless of N2O pass or not lol .

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

I can't afford either head so my opinion won't matter.LOL

You can buy same ported casting as Fultons CV1 (max cast 330) with same valve job, same flow for far far less than a billet head + porting + valvetrain. It IS NOT a one off port. Bill digitized it over 3 years ago. Dick is not only one with this port, he finished his build sooner. Depending on how you intend to use it you might not need the shaft rockers or need as high a level valvetrain. Options obviously affect price. You can opt for lesser or greater port capability and other options as best fits your application.

And yes I get the budget thing. Its still going to be awhile before I can buy the entry level cv1's to replace my iron heads. With turbo's it just not a high priority.

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

The new motor has been great this year. Taking baby steps with the tune up then adding more power figuring out the chassis, transmission and rear gear ratio that has been the hard work.

I get that. That's what I've been doing with my supercharger set-up as well, but with 5000' to 6000' density altitude this summer.

Jim

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

I like to think that the M/T hemi heads did- the only Pontiac to ever take Top Eliminator at an NHRA Nationals. I consider that a "record".

You go back even further than I do, Jack. And I bet you were paying more attention back then, too.

Jim

[68azbird]

Originally Posted by twooldgoats

I get that. That's what I've been doing with my supercharger set-up as well, but with 5000' to 6000' density altitude this summer.

Jim

You need to move the operation up the road a bit where the DA is 2000' - 3600'

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

You can't compare Power added engines without the power adder...........that would be silly. The engines are made for the PA addition. I would like to see at least 6-8 runs at Norwalk from BOTH these cars without any problems.........then I will be IMPRESSED!! I hope both cars run well and have NO problems.........we'll see.


GTO George

^^^^^
TRUTH!

That would be a good evaluation of the capabilities of both cars/drivers/race combinations on the same track, same week-end.

Tom V.

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by 68azbird

You need to move the operation up the road a bit where the DA is 2000' - 3600'

I may yet, but it's exactly a hundred miles from my door to Wild Horse Pass and less than 25 miles to SIR.

Jim

[wreckmastr]

Making laps......

[GTOGEORGE]

Lots of Pontiacs out there making laps!


GTO George

[BADDTA]

Originally Posted by wreckmastr

Making laps......

That looks bad a$$!!

Brian

[jdw_poncho]

Originally Posted by wreckmastr

Making laps......

I see you post the black car on fb. Is that your car?

How fast has the purple car ran this year? Will it be at norwalk?