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Old 09-16-2016, 04:19 PM
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Did I click on the wrong forum? Is this the boosted section?

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^TRUTH^ to Marcella post

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Old 09-16-2016, 04:32 PM
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Two valve size/positions are already on offer from one Pontiac head manufacturer. It may not be what you would do but it's on offer for small vs bid bore Pontiacs.

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I get that these people are up against stock bore size valve locations vs. Aftermarket block valve locations. But it shouldn't be a big deal to have two programs one for smallbore and one for large bore

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I said I would not post on DRAG RACING TOPICS in the Race section, did not like DRAG RACING. I have known Marcella for a long time, if I agree with his post I can post that I agree with it and not offend anyone except for apparently chit stirrers like you Aaron.

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Old 09-16-2016, 04:37 PM
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Im Really trying to have something that's good bang for the buck. And we could currently have that with multiple castings that are currently available. But nope ! I don't know what some of these guys are thinking when they designed this stuff. Frustrating.
You know edelbrock won't do anything.
I am not sure why other manufacturers of pontiac heads won't take in consideration some of your ideas,at least to make a better product,without having to re-engineer everything.
I guess its like everything else here,its not needed,so you will have to make them work. Its a good thing you can weld. Lol
It surprises me that a tiger would have to have so many revisions to make them a good head,even after they have been revised. IDK
Thanks for trying John.

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Old 09-16-2016, 04:42 PM
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I said I would not post on DRAG RACING TOPICS in the Race section, did not like DRAG RACING. I have known Marcella for a long time, if I agree with his post I can post that I agree with it and not offend anyone except for apparently chit stirrers like you Aaron.

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You can come back now Tom,this is a kinder,more friendlier race section now.

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Old 09-16-2016, 04:45 PM
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Or I can save myself some time and withdraw all the money out of my bank account and light it on fire.
That sounds like racing,spend thousands to win hundreds.

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Old 09-16-2016, 05:40 PM
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Got a set here now. Looked at it hard and reevaluated my thoughts on it. Seems like a tremendous amount of work and effort for pretty much a lateral move imo. If the customer wants to go down that road I'm certainly up for it and we can make it as good as it can be. But from where I'm standing it just kind of doesn't make sense. If you want to discuss I'm willing to get into extreme detail on what I see and think. No bashing, no negative agenda just honest opinion.
... well, the original 1st stage of my offer was to finish my "other" platform first, and then your modified version would happen next ...

... and could then be used as a point of comparison, from 1st Stage to 2nd Stage versions, which i honestly feel would be an extremely interesting project ...

... i have much respect for you and your crew, and look forward to anything positive in terms of results that could be gathered from a joint effort from talent such as ourselves ...

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:09 PM
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Hey Tom, this must be the diesel section!

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:32 PM
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Hopefully you know I was just busting your chops.

This is what you said: "So I have decided to remove myself from any future RACE discussions and stay in the 64-65 GTO forum or the Boost Forum (as that is, and has been my job for 40 years."

Not stirring, just calling it. This is the race section, yes?

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I said I would not post on DRAG RACING TOPICS in the Race section, did not like DRAG RACING. I have known Marcella for a long time, if I agree with his post I can post that I agree with it and not offend anyone except for apparently chit stirrers like you Aaron.

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:33 PM
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Some folks have multiple talents.

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Like what? Excluding nonrelevant patents.

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You'd have to ask competent people. Patents cost about 20K to procure, I'm sure they're irrelevant (corrected spelling), to the untrained eye.

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Old 09-16-2016, 07:22 PM
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... well, the original 1st stage of my offer was to finish my "other" platform first, and then your modified version would happen next ...

... and could then be used as a point of comparison, from 1st Stage to 2nd Stage versions, which i honestly feel would be an extremely interesting project ...

... i have much respect for you and your crew, and look forward to anything positive in terms of results that could be gathered from a joint effort from talent such as ourselves ...

I'm sure all that seems great to you from a data perspective. However for the customer it would be downright foolish! 2 sets of rocker gear two different manifolds , two sets of Pistons. Not good financially for the customer.
What I would do to that casting is a tremendous change. Nothing would work with the old stuff.

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Old 09-16-2016, 07:57 PM
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I'm sure all that seems great to you from a data perspective. However for the customer it would be downright foolish! 2 sets of rocker gear two different manifolds , two sets of Pistons. Not good financially for the customer.
What I would do to that casting is a tremendous change. Nothing would work with the old stuff.
Sounds like it would be better to start over with a clean sheet.




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Old 09-16-2016, 08:17 PM
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Just as I thought, no relevant talent. So you're not a god either!

Just busting your chops.

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Old 09-16-2016, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like it would be better to start over with a clean sheet.




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Great idea! Lets start from scratch like Visner did...oh wait, That's not a good example is it...

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I'm sure all that seems great to you from a data perspective. However for the customer it would be downright foolish! 2 sets of rocker gear two different manifolds , two sets of Pistons. Not good financially for the customer.
What I would do to that casting is a tremendous change. Nothing would work with the old stuff.
... wrong, i was agreed to supply the complete engine, which means only one set of rocker gear, only one set of pistons, only one manifold, no tremendous change at all, as i would have supplied the complete engine, even a billet carburetor, remember ??? ...

... the point was to determine exactly where we stood with power in an N/A application with the Gen I architechture, the extra secondary parts wouldn't cost you anymore money, because they wouldn't be 2nd at all, as i have paid for the 1st level of components ...

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Great idea! Lets start from scratch like Visner did...oh wait, That's not a good example is it...
The heads are just fine u shall find out if you ever get your "street car" you talk about together!

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The heads are just fine u shall find out if you ever get your "street car" you talk about together!
... Blah blah blah blah blah ...

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Well if you look at the patents I think block structure increasing strength while reducing mass and combustion system improvements would seem to apply but I could be wrong. I'm sure you've done more?

Never claimed to be anything. What I hope to help with is free information sharing without all of the bs that comes with this section.

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Just as I thought, no relevant talent. So you're not a god either!

Just busting your chops.

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