[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by hp 400 dave

I would only buy from Frank and Bob again as I am happy with my IA 2 block, tiger heads, etc and was treated well. I don't care about the price difference.

... So it would make no difference if we made a better part for less money is what you're saying ?? ...

[Nicks67GTO]

As hard as it is to find good blocks anymore, I think a cheaper sportsman block would be a great offering and may be necessary in the future. I thought 400s were readily available everywhere until i tried to start sourcing them for a builder who wanted 6-8 at a crack and I ran into a ton of dead ends or just plain ridiculous block prices.

[Nicks67GTO]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... So it would make no difference if we made a better part for less money is what you're saying ?? ...

It sure would for me

[Nicks67GTO]

What's your release date goal on all this stuff?

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... So it would make no difference if we made a better part for less money is what you're saying ?? ...

Talk is cheap, saying it'll be better and cheaper vs doing it is two different things. Hope you guys do it as competition is good for the buyer.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Nicks67GTO

What's your release date goal on all this stuff?

... the stroker kits are extremely close ... the R2 block not as close ...

[JSPONT]

Paul Carter did a nice thread on an IA block someone bought and all the stuff he had to do to get it correct.
I am not bashing trust me, but as a guy a a very tight budget, if I knew the block just needed a piston bore to what I wanted, I would go for it. But needed line bore, cap work, deck work, not sure if they fixed it but oil galley work.
I am just saying I think more might buy it then.
I can not tell you my source, but he has looked at many blocks not 1 was a bore and go. They all need work from what I am told.
Please don't take this as anything but constructive critisizm

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... the stroker kits are extremely close ... the R2 block not as close ...

You planning on just selling in a kit form? Will you be able to buy individual part?

[Nicks67GTO]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... the stroker kits are extremely close ... the R2 block not as close ...

Are you doing a 4" stroke, 3" main version?

[hp 400 dave]

I'm loyal, so I would always go where I was treated well before.

[Jeff Kinsler]

Here is a good E-Head discussion. How much would someone pay, if they wanted to buy a used 500 cubic inch E-Headed complete longblock? Complete heads with shafts rockers, intake, pushrods, .903 lifters, grp rods, ross pistons, scat 4.150 forged crank, 50 mm cam. No oil pan, belt drive or carb. Just say the car went 7.70s with a nitrous plate at 3270 lbs. And go.....

[mgarblik]

If the plan is to make another iron Pontiac block, it is going to have to be flat out incredible be tougher than an IAII. After running 1 single block on 90% nitro for 5 years with all the stupid stuff we did to it and all it needs is a hone job and it's ready for more!. We are talking about tossing 2 rods out of the bottom of it. Going through a fire that destroyed the entire car. Melting main bearings in the block that looked like some sort of modern art. Getting the main caps so hot they turned black. All this and making 2200-2400 HP on 6 and 7 cylinders at times. The block has been line honed multiple times to fix all this chaos, decked once 4 years ago, and now has a bore of 4.254. It was 4.250 when we started. Very impressed with the function and performance of these blocks. With the N20 fed Grocery Getter, we split 3 stock blocks right through the #2 and #4 main oil feeds and cracked multiple sleeves at less than 1100 HP. before making the switch to the IA blocks.

I would love to see you make an iron Pontiac cylinder head. You are a cylinder head expert and this would be a natural. The hobby really needs this. We have 2 aftermarket block suppliers, 6 or more aluminum head choices, and 0 iron heads. Good cores are scarce and it take allot of work to make a set decent. An iron Pontiac head 300-320 CFM out of the box would be a big seller. Power adder guys would love it. Street and restoration guys too if it looked stock.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

Here is a good E-Head discussion. How much would someone pay, if they wanted to buy a used 500 cubic inch E-Headed complete longblock? Complete heads with shafts rockers, intake, pushrods, .903 lifters, grp rods, ross pistons, scat 4.150 forged crank, 50 mm cam. No oil pan, belt drive or carb. Just say the car went 7.70s with a nitrous plate at 3270 lbs. And go.....

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by hp 400 dave

I'm loyal, so I would always go where I was treated well before.

... so a better product at a better price does not drive this market place ?? ...

... you're treatment would be at least the same or better ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Nicks67GTO

Are you doing a 4" stroke, 3" main version?

... all cranks are based on the 3.00 main, for now, and the available strokes will be (4.250,4.375,4.500.4.650) ...

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Ahh it is an EHTTFMF thread.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by mgarblik

If the plan is to make another iron Pontiac block, it is going to have to be flat out incredible be tougher than an IAII. After running 1 single block on 90% nitro for 5 years with all the stupid stuff we did to it and all it needs is a hone job and it's ready for more!. We are talking about tossing 2 rods out of the bottom of it. Going through a fire that destroyed the entire car. Melting main bearings in the block that looked like some sort of modern art. Getting the main caps so hot they turned black. All this and making 2200-2400 HP on 6 and 7 cylinders at times. The block has been line honed multiple times to fix all this chaos, decked once 4 years ago, and now has a bore of 4.254. It was 4.250 when we started. Very impressed with the function and performance of these blocks. With the N20 fed Grocery Getter, we split 3 stock blocks right through the #2 and #4 main oil feeds and cracked multiple sleeves at less than 1100 HP. before making the switch to the IA blocks.

I would love to see you make an iron Pontiac cylinder head. You are a cylinder head expert and this would be a natural. The hobby really needs this. We have 2 aftermarket block suppliers, 6 or more aluminum head choices, and 0 iron heads. Good cores are scarce and it take allot of work to make a set decent. An iron Pontiac head 300-320 CFM out of the box would be a big seller. Power adder guys would love it. Street and restoration guys too if it looked stock.

... oh it would be ...

... it honestly would be the block that would represent what many high end racers are looking for, and also fill the bill for the SR block type customers are looking for, because the pricing would be very reasonable ...

[mgarblik]

I will certainly stay tuned. If you are going to be pouring iron, please consider the iron head suggestion too. With your port designs, it seems like a slam dunk.

[67GTO4SPEED]

I'm asking because I'm not familiar with them, but what machine work is needed for the IA-II or MR-1 to be ready to run? Are they not available from All Pontiac or KRE ready to run?

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

Ahh it is an EHTTFMF thread.

I was glad to see you were bringing back on topic.

Still very few posts these heads are technically a great race head, except they are aluminum.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420