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Old 04-19-2017, 03:09 PM
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By comparing the two photos, the things that stand out to me is the repro's emblem does not sit as flush in the knob body as the GM part. Also, the grain on the repro is coarser.

With that said, the repro is not bad at all!

I purchased it for around $239 shipped. Not bad considering the last one sold for substantially more

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I think you did fine.

I haven't removed the backing from the emblem yet, so it's just sitting there and is a bit tall in the saddle. I think it will look a little better once I affix the emblem properly. And the grain will wear down so I don't think it is a big disappointment to me. I'm thinking it is likely from The Parts Place, but I've had it a number of years now.

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With the repro they might be trying to simulate the raised medallion that was used on the early cars.

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By comparing the two photos, the things that stand out to me is the repro's emblem does not sit as flush in the knob body as the GM part. Also, the grain on the repro is coarser.

With that said, the repro is not bad at all!

I purchased it for around $239 shipped. Not bad considering the last one sold for substantially more
With the repro they might be trying to simulate the raised medallion that was used on the early cars.
/\ beat me to it.

most of the repops I have seen the emblem sat flush, and I didn't like it because I have never seen an original which sat flush - this is the first one.
The early knobs sat raised on a metal(?) backing;
All of the latter ones I have seen were still raised, but not on a metal backing.

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My wife thought I was crazy when I purchased this NOS unit w/no box for over $150 from a members' friend back in '11. But mine bugged me. As you can see, my inserts' silver pattern is ribbed and the edge is a chrome ring.
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/\ beat me to it.

most of the repops I have seen the emblem sat flush, and I didn't like it because I have never seen an original which sat flush - this is the first one.
The early knobs sat raised on a metal(?) backing;
All of the latter ones I have seen were still raised, but not on a metal backing.
Here is another NOS knob. The emblem sits flush on this one too. The grain is very fine.


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Nice example of an early version

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Those are nice knobs there guys. I'll have to work on my knob situation some.

Here's some of the shims for the door lock strikers. There are listed "As Required".

4469196 10.571 All WASHER, (5/64" thick) AR 1965 1972 10-5



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Nice example of an early version
How early?

Mine are both raised.

71 and 72 with a slight beveled edge and grooves like Mike shows?

Not much of grain at all...

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My original '72 is the raised design and my original '78 is the flush design.

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I believe the raised emblem was used on the '71-'77 knobs and the flush emblem was on the '78, '79 and '81 cars (sorry to derail the thread, Chad).

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Back to topic as this horse has been spanked!

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I'm enjoying the conversation. I'll definitely be needing a better knob now that I realize the differences.

Some of these part numbers that are not mentioned in the Assembly Manual can be a little tricky to figure out, if at all.

These are the original 4 hooks from my car. They all look the same from the front side and are molded in blue to match the rest of the car interior. They came color matched in a number of colors, I saw the others during my searches, but only looking at blue right now.

Looks like they used a single part number for 1970 and then carried that number over for the "Coat Hook" but gave the other two a new number for the "Storage Hook" which has a group number in common with the seat belts. Although the blue should be different so I might still have one of these numbers wrong.

9817975 15.388 23...................... HOOK (blue) 2 1970 1970 **15-8
9838734 14.875 AllF.................... HOOK, shoulder strap stowage (blue) 2 1971 1971 **14-1



Although they look the same on the front side the back sides show vastly different colored inserts in the two sets.



No wonder they went on strike....

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Here's the only four 1971 specific color match "Coat Hook" that are listed in the online lookup. Seems like several missing....

9867280 15.388 All...................... HOOK (saddle) 2 1971 1971 15-8
9867284 15.388 All...................... HOOK (jade) 2 1971 1971 15-8
9867286 15.388 All...................... HOOK (sienna) 2 1971 1971 15-8
9862639 15.388 AllA&F................ HOOK (sandalwood) 2 1971 1971 15-8

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Here's the assembly line correct part number switch with the later "PUSH" button. I also saved my original "WASH" button that I will put on before final install.

1994089 10.163 All F SWITCH ASM. (w/washer)(w/recess park) 1 1970 1972 10-2





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I've got a couple of radios that I hope to get around to working on before too long. Both the 12FFP1 models that would be correct for my car. Just regular AM/FM without stereo.

1 = 1971
2 = Pontiac
F = F-Body - Firebird
FP - AM/FM pushbutton
1 = First design run

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I have the complete schematics for this model radio, too. This is page 1



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Here's the assembly line correct part number switch with the later "PUSH" button. I also saved my original "WASH" button that I will put on before final install.

1994089 10.163 All F SWITCH ASM. (w/washer)(w/recess park) 1 1970 1972 10-2





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Hold the phone!?

Did this button assembly differ between standard and recessed wipers?

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Here's a picture of the tag on a '71 Stereo radio.
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Here's an NOS horn relay. You can see the cover on the 893 was a zinc coating. It sat upside down in the box so it has a tiny bit of tarnish along one edge so I may re-coat this one.

1115893 2.188 All exc. 1971 X (2.815) RELAY, horn and key alarm buzzer 1 1969 1971 2-7




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I believe the raised emblem was used on the '71-'77 knobs and the flush emblem was on the '78, '79 and '81 cars (sorry to derail the thread, Chad).
I was able to make my NOS '78-'81 knob correct for my '77(and earlier).

My center emblem was mint. It easily came off, and was swapped onto the NOS knob..


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