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Old 12-29-2017, 10:17 AM
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If his shop is a high end shop (as stated) and busy, to paint a full car and jams takes time. It would tie up his booth and stop his production of his money makers. (insurance work)
Insurance work for a whopping 48.00 per hour....whoop de dew...

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Old 12-29-2017, 10:31 AM
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Insurance work for a whopping 48.00 per hour....whoop de dew...
That's what I thought. It's limited.

When I had my front end redone on my car 2 years ago, my local shop, whom I've known for many years, did the work. He's a modern shop who does mostly collision work. However, there are a few old-school guys there who were having a great time working on my car. So much so, in fact, that they did more work that I requested and did it better than I ever could have imagined. They did the following:

-removed entire front end.
-prepped new `glass hood, including sanding the undersigde smooth and painting it to make it look less like a glass hood.
- repairing old bodywork on a front fender
- aligning the fenders to the slight curve of the glass hood by removing all welds and re-welding the inner-to-outter fenders such that all seems were perfect.
- completely filling and sanding the blower motor cover to make it perfect (I never asked for that one at all!)
- creating a hidden mount for my MSD box and all related wiring so that it's completely invisible yet accessible.
- painted entire engine bay, frame, etc.
- painted the full nose of the car with perfectly matched paint.
- painted that tough finish texture paint you see on the bottom sills of Mercedes on my lower rear quarters.
- realigned all of my windows
- relocated my battery and wiring to the correct side of the car (remember, it's a LeGTO)

He did all of this in about 4 weeks, and I was chomping at the bit to get it back. So I can't imagine waiting a year for a repair job. It's not a full resto or anything. Sheesh.

Oh, and my guy only charged me the insurance hourly rate which as I recall was in the $4x range.

That reminds me, I need to bring my two other cars in to him for bumper work.

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Old 12-29-2017, 10:33 AM
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:31 AM
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JS hit it,they dont want to do a complete car,his shops are back logged on insurance work.The shop I used to use and does classic cars just got too busy for them.My 69 judge was there for 2 years,a friend car is there and just coming out after 3 years.Getting a car done in socal for any reasonable cost is REALLY hard.Im thrilled with the deal and the quality I got.Carry on.The one thing for sure I will not break my rule again,never buy a car that need body and paint.PERIOD!Tom

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Old 12-29-2017, 08:09 PM
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:15 PM
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David, pass the salt please.

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Old 12-29-2017, 08:25 PM
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Definitely off topic BUT where is the MSD box on your car located and hidden? and Pics?

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That's what I thought. It's limited.

When I had my front end redone on my car 2 years ago, my local shop, whom I've known for many years, did the work. He's a modern shop who does mostly collision work. However, there are a few old-school guys there who were having a great time working on my car. So much so, in fact, that they did more work that I requested and did it better than I ever could have imagined. They did the following:

-removed entire front end.
-prepped new `glass hood, including sanding the undersigde smooth and painting it to make it look less like a glass hood.
- repairing old bodywork on a front fender
- aligning the fenders to the slight curve of the glass hood by removing all welds and re-welding the inner-to-outter fenders such that all seems were perfect.
- completely filling and sanding the blower motor cover to make it perfect (I never asked for that one at all!)
- creating a hidden mount for my MSD box and all related wiring so that it's completely invisible yet accessible.
- painted entire engine bay, frame, etc.
- painted the full nose of the car with perfectly matched paint.
- painted that tough finish texture paint you see on the bottom sills of Mercedes on my lower rear quarters.
- realigned all of my windows
- relocated my battery and wiring to the correct side of the car (remember, it's a LeGTO)

He did all of this in about 4 weeks, and I was chomping at the bit to get it back. So I can't imagine waiting a year for a repair job. It's not a full resto or anything. Sheesh.

Oh, and my guy only charged me the insurance hourly rate which as I recall was in the $4x range.

That reminds me, I need to bring my two other cars in to him for bumper work.

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Old 12-29-2017, 08:40 PM
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It's mounted in between the inner and outer fender above drivers side tire. It's mounted to a custom plate they made, which can be seen on the bench in this photo in the top left corner. That bracket then bolts to the inner fender from beneath, inside wheel well. Remove the tire to access bolts. Unbolt it and the assembly slides forward towards the battery for service. There's enough wire slack to make it possible.

My only instructions were to get it off the fender and minimize it's visual appearance. I was thinking just mounting it lower towards the battery. This was a work of art and ingenuity. I was very pleased.




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It's mounted in between the inner and outer fender above drivers side tire. It's mounted to a custom plate they made, which can be seen on the bench in this photo in the top left corner. That bracket then bolts to the inner fender from beneath, inside wheel well. Remove the tire to access bolts. Unbolt it and the assembly slides forward towards the battery for service. There's enough wire slack to make it possible.

My only instructions were to get it off the fender and minimize it's visual appearance. I was thinking just mounting it lower towards the battery. This was a work of art and ingenuity. I was very pleased.
Nice job but accessability does not seem ideal. Why not just mount it inside the car, under the dash? It also protects it from engine compartment heat.

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Old 12-29-2017, 09:33 PM
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My Hi6 has been under the dash for 20 years.Tom

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Old 12-29-2017, 10:07 PM
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This Thread has turned into......All Body Shops Suck.....Lol

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Old 12-29-2017, 11:59 PM
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We should give David back his thread and start a hate body shop thread!Tom

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Old 12-30-2017, 12:03 AM
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It's mounted in between the inner and outer fender above drivers side tire. It's mounted to a custom plate they made, which can be seen on the bench in this photo in the top left corner. That bracket then bolts to the inner fender from beneath, inside wheel well. Remove the tire to access bolts. Unbolt it and the assembly slides forward towards the battery for service. There's enough wire slack to make it possible.

My only instructions were to get it off the fender and minimize it's visual appearance. I was thinking just mounting it lower towards the battery. This was a work of art and ingenuity. I was very pleased.


OK, but before we drop this, I just wanted to point out that the custom made mount is on the bottom right, not top left (I was viewing from my phone before). It's the square folded piece that looks newer than the rest of them.

Yes, under the dash would have been good but, well, I didn't pay for them to re-wire the whole thing I guess.

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David, pass the salt please.
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Its not that I think body shops suck. its that I miss having her in the garage.
Mine had to be taken down to metal, glad we did. Found a few hidden minor
issues. And shop wants to have only their products on body, so there are no issues.
The good news is its my neighbors shop and they do great work. And I stop in
once a week or so to check up on it. And bring the guys bagels and donuts.

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The wheels have fallen off this thread - hope the new year brings you a finished car David!

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The wheels have fallen off this thread - hope the new year brings you a finished car David!
Thanks Chris.
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Agreed. May your next update be your last accompanied by a picture of the finished beauty!

Happy New Year!

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