[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I thought he said he bought a whole set up for a spare........the cv-1 stuff isn’t ready yet!
Remember racers don’t upgrade and spend money for sh_ts & giggles! We spend enough money as it is!! LOL!


GTO George

Here you go george. Sounds to me his spare will have Eheads buddy..


The engine in my car now is the same engine i’ve had for years. I recently ordered a new block and same e head combo up top, just to have new castings (mine are pretty wore out lol) and with the schedule we have nowadays i have always been a little worried about not having a spare engine to swap out, in case i get a little wild with the loud pedal. The new engine is a little smaller in order to fit some of the bigger payout class rules should i ever choose to class race it.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

Here you go george. Sounds to me his spare will have Eheads buddy..


The engine in my car now is the same engine i’ve had for years. I recently ordered a new block and same e head combo up top, just to have new castings (mine are pretty wore out lol) and with the schedule we have nowadays i have always been a little worried about not having a spare engine to swap out, in case i get a little wild with the loud pedal. The new engine is a little smaller in order to fit some of the bigger payout class rules should i ever choose to class race it.

NO he says he getting it for a spare.........same thing he has now.......who knows when the CV-1 top end will be ready! If the CV heads work out I suppose he'll have a set for his spare! Its always nice to have a spare! Wonder what class he's talking about.....I thought it was ALL run what you bring!


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

Here you go george. Sounds to me his spare will have Eheads buddy..


The engine in my car now is the same engine i’ve had for years. I recently ordered a new block and same e head combo up top, just to have new castings (mine are pretty wore out lol) and with the schedule we have nowadays i have always been a little worried about not having a spare engine to swap out, in case i get a little wild with the loud pedal. The new engine is a little smaller in order to fit some of the bigger payout class rules should i ever choose to class race it.

The GOOD part is that he is "upgrading"

GTO George

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Chief brought it up not me.....don’t shoot the messenger! LOL! I’ll wait till the end of the season!


GTO George

What are you waiting for?
He just said they did the last list race last Wednesday and he has been #1 since the 3rd episode which is what we will be watching tonight...all with a lowly performer e-head...

[GTOGEORGE]

Hello Tom, hows that recliner doing?


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

What are you waiting for?
He just said they did the last list race last Wednesday and he has been #1 since the 3rd episode which is what we will be watching tonight...all with a lowly performer e-head...

Well thats cool, I hate Chevy JUNKS! I'll be watching, I love the show........just don't care for racing on the street, TOO many wrecks! So do you know what class he's talking about?
PTTF!

GTO George

[Scott Stoneburg]

Very cool to have Chief come on and respond here.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Scott Stoneburg

Very cool to have Chief come on and respond here.

Yes he needs to do it more..........or maybe come to Norwalk and bring maybe Murder Nova. Hell Jack would probably call it a GTO! LOL!


GTO George

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

NO he says he getting it for a spare.........same thing he has now.......who knows when the CV-1 top end will be ready! If the CV heads work out I suppose he'll have a set for his spare! Its always nice to have a spare! Wonder what class he's talking about.....I thought it was ALL run what you bring!


GTO George

How is it no??

Its a spare . Thats what i said!

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

The GOOD part is that he is "upgrading"

GTO George

But he dont need those heads to do that !

[Scott Stoneburg]

Who cares what head he uses. As long as its Pontiac I'll root for him.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Scott Stoneburg

Who cares what head he uses. As long as its Pontiac I'll root for him.

Ditto!


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

How is it no??

Its a spare . Thats what i said!

OK its a spare....Racers have lots of spares, Water pumps, starters, heads, short blocks! That normal........race cars can't win races if they are sitting on the trailer!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

It’s more important that he said he’s running the CV-1 heads when he gets them, now the haters can stop hating! He is stepping up!
So someone owes someone $50! LOL!


GTO George

Has a year, from the looks of it, not very likely. He just ordered a second block, head combo of the same thing he has run. I believe he will at least get the CV stuff together and do some testing. But to do that and get it in the car, 5 runs withing a year.....
With him getting new bullets of the same caliber as we speak, its a time thing now.
I have always wondered why he did not step up to at least a garden variety E head wide port. If you read what he posted, reliability if first and foremost, power is secondary. WPs have offset rockers and they do break. Non offset stuff is very reliable with simple geometry, tough, reliable. And if he has plenty of power to compete as is I think its tough for him to change. The old engine has brought him where he is today and still running strong as ever.
You can see a part of him likes beating the best of the best with his basic, if you want to call it that, old school Pontiac. He takes great pride in doing so much of the hard stuff, tuning ect himself. I take pride in as doing as much as I can myself.
And you know George, you saying he did not say a lot is somewhat derogatory. He does not post much and it took effort for him to take the time to post and tell us things he does not have to. Thankful he did.
Said plenty and more if you can read between the lines. You even got a mention, of the world without capitol "g".
Right now, same heads, smaller ci. Downgrading it seems.

[GTOGEORGE]

I actually feel pretty important I suppose!
Heck if I had a dollar for every time I was wrong, I’d retireded an year earlier BUT then again if I had a dollar for every time I was right I’d retired 2 years earlier! LOL! I never not rooted for him....I’m a Pontiac racer, just took the info I had (from the show) and went with it. besides i defended him and Pontiac a bunch of times on Facebook......like I said “Pontiac”!


GTO George

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

OK its a spare....Racers have lots of spares, Water pumps, starters, heads, short blocks! That normal........race cars can't win races if they are sitting on the trailer!


GTO George

No George , those are the parts bolted to a spare motor you listed ..

And those parts include e heads .. remember that lol..

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

No George , those are the parts bolted to a spare motor you listed ..

And those parts include e heads .. remember that lol..

......and he is stepping up to cv-1 heads! And all you guys were bashing cv-1 heads!!
As long as he keeps on winning!


GTO George

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Reliability in a 9400rpm Pontiac. Let that sink in

[BruceWilkie]

Ok thanks

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Has a year, from the looks of it, not very likely. He just ordered a second block, head combo of the same thing he has run. I believe he will at least get the CV stuff together and do some testing. But to do that and get it in the car, 5 runs withing a year.....
With him getting new bullets of the same caliber as we speak, its a time thing now.
I have always wondered why he did not step up to at least a garden variety E head wide port. If you read what he posted, reliability if first and foremost, power is secondary. WPs have offset rockers and they do break. Non offset stuff is very reliable with simple geometry, tough, reliable. And if he has plenty of power to compete as is I think its tough for him to change. The old engine has brought h toim where he is today and still running strong as ever.
You can see a part of him likes beating the best of the best with his basic, if you want to call it that, old school Pontiac. He takes great pride in doing so much of the hard stuff, tuning ect himself. I take pride in as doing as much as I can myself.
And you know George, you saying he did not say a lot is somewhat derogatory. He does not post much and it took effort for him to take the time to post and tell us things he does not have to. Thankful he did.
Said plenty and more if you can read between the lines. You even got a mention, of the world without capitol "g".
Right now, same heads, smaller ci. Downgrading it seems.

CV1 Heads are done and will be delivered in person very very soon.(Bill and/or Jim, and I know the date) . Intake is done too.
Smaller likely means less stroke and more rpm. (There are plenty of good reasons...get Quillen's thoughts on that if you don't want to trust me)
Bigger CSA heads means more flow at same boost means more HP.(and yes Bill is a top notch head Porter ask his peers.)
More RPM means more HP.
Valvetrain stability is critical at 9000+ rpm. An offset setup like wideport isn't neutral like cv1.
Anyone thinking cv1 is downgrading in any way needs to look again and quit believing the haters.

[Dragncar]

Bruce, it will take awhile before the new stuff makes it to the show. Its going to take serious effort. At this point, there are no CV engines with Twin turbos spinning it to 9400RPMs. Smaller engine, even more RPMs.
Going to have to be the first.
Offset wide port valve trains have shown more reliability than CVs to this point. Mike was going 9200 through the traps. Any CVs doing that ?
Its not like I don't think Q can do it, I am sure he can.
Run after run reliability is going to be critical.