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I'm getting ready to have another set of headers fabricated for my car and I wanted to get some knowledgeable opinions on header size. My current headers are stepped 2 1/16" to 2.25" primaries. The combination is in my signature below, but the engine is 541 CI, and I shift around 7800 rpm. HP is around 1050. Does anyone else have a similar combination, and what size headers are you running?
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs Last edited by Gary H; 01-11-2026 at 07:07 PM. |
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Tagging on - Always good to hear opinions and possibilities of facts.
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OK, I spoke with Jeff at KRE and he recommended starting with a 2 1/8" primary for around 12-15", then stepped to 2.25", then to a 3.5" merge collector. Any thoughts on this?
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs |
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This is a Trans Am series car. 358 cu in engine, 935HP @ 8600rpm. 2.25 inch pipes into 2.5 inch pipes into 3 inch Y-pipes into 4 inch side pipes.
We swapped out the engine in just over two hours after it had lost coolant pressure in the last 15 minutes of a practice run. Big increase in crankcase pressure the next time out indicated rings were toast. It was only a $60,000 muck up. Then pinion bearing gave out during qualifying and we had to swap out the carrier the night before the race. Hypoid gear lube is an excellent skin softener. |
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I'd try Larry Meaux' Pipe Max and see what it says?
Just a rough estimate I'd think it would need a little more? (need a lot of engine specs to use it)
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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2-1/8 for around 4” to 2-1/4 to 2-3/8 total length under 28” into a 4” merge collector. Clocked for firing order
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A FWIW, John's combo in my signature uses 2 1/4- 2 3/8 step header, 34 primary length, 4.5 collector.
526 CID 4.500 / 4.315 / 6.7 HP heads / 13.2 :1 Victor intake w/Cloverleaf spacer & sheer plate 8896 Dominator carb 920hp at 7000 rpm .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) Best time 5.13 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs |
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That's what I'd do |
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Here are my SS headers. Very close to what John suggested. I run 2.125-2.25" and merge collectors clocked to firing order at 900 to 950hp depending on combination in car.
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We tried 2 different sets of headers on the dyno.
2"-2 1/8" 947HP 2 1/8"-2 1/4"-2 3/8"-2 1/2" 963HP
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`70 Firebird,Original Owner car Ken French Built Chassis Carlquist Competition Engines IA2 505 Competition CNC Ported Super Chiefs CCE Ported Gustram Twin Dominators from Shaker 455 963 HP `09 Electra Glide Standard. `03 F-350 7.3 6-speed 4x4 Crew Cab Dually. |
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