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Old 07-17-2015, 04:02 PM
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When was it that people stopped talking crap about E-heads? If we get a date on that then we can know if it was less than or greater than 7 years?

Wait, people are still talking crap about E-heads.
All I gots to say is THANK YOU Larry Wenzler!


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Old 07-17-2015, 04:16 PM
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All I gots to say is THANK YOU Larry Wenzler!


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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please list the fast Wenzler Series II or Super Chief cars?



BTW, my dad has a set of Super Chiefs. He hasn't had any issues with them.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please list the fast Wenzler Series II or Super Chief cars?



BTW, my dad has a set of Super Chiefs. He hasn't had any issues with them.
I believe Neal Owens and John Langer campaigned the Series II HPs back in the day and they did pretty well and not just against other Pontiacs in NMCA. As for now, obviously there are other and better choices.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please list the fast Wenzler Series II or Super Chief cars?



BTW, my dad has a set of Super Chiefs. He hasn't had any issues with them.
My old Wenzler Super Chiefs have run both quicker and faster than any time you've ever posted.

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When was it that people stopped talking crap about E-heads? If we get a date on that then we can know if it was less than or greater than 7 years?

Wait, people are still talking crap about E-heads.
LOL, usually it goes like this: "damn, he is that fast with E heads!"

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LOL, usually it goes like this: "damn, he is that fast with E heads!"
"Cylinder head envy"!

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LOL, usually it goes like this: "damn, he is that fast with E heads!"
The so called e-head making all the power is a completely different head that Edelbrock casted.........wide ports, high ports, pushrods moved, offset rockers. the original head would not set ANY records! like I said before that you Larry Wenzler............ he was the FIRST!


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The so called e-head making all the power is a completely different head that Edelbrock casted.........wide ports, high ports, pushrods moved, offset rockers. the original head would not set ANY records! like I said before that you Larry Wenzler............ he was the FIRST!


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The Wenzler head as cast wouldn't set any records.

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Wait, people are still talking crap about E-heads.
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So did Ric Johnson.Tom

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Old 07-17-2015, 05:19 PM
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Both Ric and Dave ran in the 8s at 7lb per CI MANY years ago.Both were series one Ws.Tom

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Both Ric and Dave ran in the 8s at 7lb per CI MANY years ago.Both were series one Ws.Tom
Tom, not that it's a big deal but Dave had two pairs of Wenzlers, a series one and two. The series II's were the only ones to break into the eights. The series ones however have a better exhaust port but the series two were of better quality.

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Back to the thread topic...how many of you think, regardless of the outcome of the race that most, at least those that posted in this thread, will not change their opinions.

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Back to the thread topic...how many of you think, regardless of the outcome of the race that most, at least those that posted in this thread, will not change their opinions.
One weekend of data on two vehicles would not be a representative sample to make a change in "my opinion" of either head.

Jack "eats a hamburger" (arnie quote), one of the engines is wounded on the spray, etc,
too many variables.

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Back to the thread topic...how many of you think, regardless of the outcome of the race that most, at least those that posted in this thread, will not change their opinions.
You may be right on that point.
However, it would be interesting to see some NA passes on both combos. Seems a lot of non believers of Fulton's NA HP. No one with a Pontiac that I'm aware of has made 1100 plus HP NA at 13:1 compression. Little Jacks NA base power ???
Would be interesting to see how much power adder they added.
Possibly some opinions might change then.

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You may be right on that point.
However, it would be interesting to see some NA passes on both combos. Seems a lot of non believers of Fulton's NA HP. No one with a Pontiac that I'm aware of has made 1100 plus HP NA at 13:1 compression. Little Jacks NA base power ???
Would be interesting to see how much power adder they added.
Possibly some opinions might change then.
You can't compare Power added engines without the power adder...........that would be silly. The engines are made for the PA addition. I would like to see at least 6-8 runs at Norwalk from BOTH these cars without any problems.........then I will be IMPRESSED!! I hope both cars run well and have NO problems.........we'll see.


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You can't compare Power added engines without the power adder...........that would be silly. The engines are made for the PA addition. I would like to see at least 6-8 runs at Norwalk from BOTH these cars without any problems.........then I will be IMPRESSED!! I hope both cars run well and have NO problems.........we'll see.


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That would be a good evaluation of the capabilities of both cars/drivers/race combinations on the same track, same week-end.

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I can't afford either head so my opinion won't matter.LOL

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I can't afford either head so my opinion won't matter.LOL
You can buy same ported casting as Fultons CV1 (max cast 330) with same valve job, same flow for far far less than a billet head + porting + valvetrain. It IS NOT a one off port. Bill digitized it over 3 years ago. Dick is not only one with this port, he finished his build sooner. Depending on how you intend to use it you might not need the shaft rockers or need as high a level valvetrain. Options obviously affect price. You can opt for lesser or greater port capability and other options as best fits your application.

And yes I get the budget thing. Its still going to be awhile before I can buy the entry level cv1's to replace my iron heads. With turbo's it just not a high priority.

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I just hope someone brings a lot of beer to drink. Only requirement is must be over $2/6 pack quality.

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