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Old 12-15-2011, 12:29 AM
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These cars should be in the new Museum, and a few pages in HPP too. Would be cool to see the Cammer show cars someday..

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Old 12-15-2011, 03:06 AM
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:01 AM
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I'm speechless.

Welcome to PY; I'm from SE Michigan as well, and looking forward to hearing more on this.

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Old 12-15-2011, 10:19 AM
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These two Birds probably have a cool history.

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Old 12-15-2011, 05:29 PM
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A little more info on the Birds'


#223677U100001

12B
ST 67-22667 LOR SHOW1 BODY
TR 258-A R2 PAINT
L2 MSR 4F

326 Convertible, 2sp Auto


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#223377U100002

12B
ST 67-22637 LOR SHOW4 BODY
TR 259-B P2 PAINT
XL 2XGS 4F

326 H.O. Hardtop, 4 speed




P.S This is just a thought. Since these cars are SHOW1(VIN 00001) and SHOW4(VIN00002) and because gtoMN pointed out that 6 cylinder cars would have also had a 00001 VIN number, I wonder if the first six cars came out like below with each motor available at that time?


Show 1 - 326 Convertible
Show 2 - 6 cyl??
Show 3 - 6 cyl Sprint??
Show 4 - 326 H.O Hardtop
Show 5 - 400??
Show 6 - 400 Ram Air??

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Old 12-15-2011, 07:19 PM
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Cant wait to read the whole story here!c'mon tell it!lol

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Maybe built as the 'Magnificent 5'?

(1 of each)

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Old 12-16-2011, 11:17 AM
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Maybe built as the 'Magnificent 5'?

(1 of each)

My neighbor and friend who has a TA, has the original Life magazine with that 2 page ad on the inside front cover. I think the model have a timeless beauty, both the car and woman.

The pic of the white or yellow convert has to be from a different factory if it is serial number 1 since it is a V8 convert as well. There should be a serial number 1 hardtop and vert with a OHC serial number as well, right?

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Old 12-15-2011, 07:36 PM
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I had #33 which was a red 400/400 coupe with black deluxe.
It has a note on the build sheet stating it was built for San Fransisco Auto Show,
I think the date was Jan 1967.
Im guessing quite a few of the first cars made were used on the show car circuit.
BTW glad they are still around!

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I wish I was that lucky... Welcome Aboard, hope to read more on these gems...

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Old 12-15-2011, 11:44 PM
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Welcome to PY and I hope you enjoy the forum. Appreciate you sharing the cars with us and curious in seeing and hear more.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:02 AM
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This is awesome!! What a pair of cars. Welcome to PY and a massive thanks for sharing info on these cars. It blows me away that these have even survived, let alone ended up side by side over 40 years later. Like everyone else can't wait to hear more on the history. Have you got the PHS paperwork on them?

I just love how this sort of stuff just pops up. Made my day!

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@MikeNoun
- Not trying to dis-credit your picture, but the title on the picture is "67 Pontiac being built," Not first Firebird. A nice retro picture though!

@Keith
- 67's were only made at Lordstown, OH. Norwood, OH and Van Nuys, CA started for 68's

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Old 12-16-2011, 12:24 PM
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@MikeNoun
- Not trying to dis-credit your picture, but the title on the picture is "67 Pontiac being built," Not first Firebird. A nice retro picture though!

@Keith
- 67's were only made at Lordstown, OH. Norwood, OH and Van Nuys, CA started for 68's
Ok - thank you (my historical expertise stops beyond Pontiac built '65 GTOs)

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Old 12-16-2011, 01:38 PM
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@MikeNoun
- Not trying to dis-credit your picture, but the title on the picture is "67 Pontiac being built," Not first Firebird. A nice retro picture though!
Well, don't pay attention to the file name, that was simply the title I used in order to file the picture on my PC.

The picture I posted is indeed the first 1967 Firebird to roll down the Lordstown line, and it was a Firebird 326 convertible. The photo is documented. I was merely asking if this was your car.

This may very well be a red car. Sometimes a red or blue car can appear white depending how the photo negative was processed. However, it could also be the 2nd car, as shown in the photo above, as it appears it's next in line behind the hardtop.
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Keep in mind that many plants did not and, even today, do not build in exact VIN order, so it's entirely possible for 0002 to come off the line before 0001.

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Mike,
This picture looks like it shows your pictured car, second in line.
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