[Tom Vaught]

The front of the double tube frame as well as the cage, and the rear of the cqar (including the ladder bars was shown last night). The double tube frame did not have a typical Pontiac crossmember lay-out like a back half car would so you can't use Butler Mounts or any normal Pontiac engine mount for the car.
Marty used "Elephant Ears" off the heads on the original pontiac deal so agree with Chief on that deal.

Tom V.

[ho428]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

The front of the double tube frame as well as the cage, and the rear of the cqar (including the ladder bars was shown last night). The double tube frame did not have a typical Pontiac crossmember lay-out like a back half car would so you can't use Butler Mounts or any normal Pontiac engine mount for the car.
Marty used "Elephant Ears" off the heads on the original pontiac deal so agree with Chief on that deal.

Tom V.

I was referring to the Farmtruck build.

[Tom Vaught]

My mistake. I must have walked away during that comment on the F-Bird farm truck.
Should be lots of mounts for F-Birds, so probably Reality TV comment.

Tom V.

[ho428]

I will say the new Crow looks like one bad azz car, and Lutz looks like he'd be fun to work with.

[rohrt]

Seeing two Pontiac in the running from the 405 is pretty cool. I would have loved to see more building of the car then what they showed. If I had to place bets I would say that Chief will be the winner in his race and Aron will be the winner in his.

I heard Chief say that the fastest he ever went was 6.30. I assume that is in the 1/4 and not the 1/8th right?

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by ho428

I couldn't figure out why they said they had to make motor mounts, that none existed for that combo.
I'm assuming that was a made for TV moment.

They had what looked like poly mounts, from what I understand they don't always fit well, maybe the problem?

[ho428]

I assume this 500 cu in limit is only for this race and not a new SO rule?
A 500 limit would probably bring a lot more Pontiacs into the fray.

[69Goat1]

The new Crow has been 3's at 194 in the 1/8th so far with junk standard port layout E-heads...

Laughlin Motorsports and Richard Rawlings had no chance...

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

The new Crow has been 3's at 194 in the 1/8th so far with junk standard port layout E-heads...

Laughlin Motorsports and Richard Rawlings had no chance...

I can't wait to see how quick he goes with a good set of heads on it,



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by ho428

I assume this 500 cu in limit is only for this race and not a new SO rule?
A 500 limit would probably bring a lot more Pontiacs into the fray.

Ya it was just for the race (fast & load).



GTO George

[bpenrod]

Originally Posted by ho428

Lutz looks like he'd be fun to work with.

Just don't let him do any welding for you!

[Ron Landis]

Alls I gots ta say is....Richard Rawlings can NOT make a decent pass in ANY Pro-Mod car! Period. If he does/did...Hollywood was heavily involved.
And wasn't that the crux of the deal??? He's already welched by NOT having HIS guys build the car. This clown is so done.

[ho428]

Originally Posted by bpenrod

Just don't let him do any welding for you!

I noticed that even though they have a tig rig that when they were tacking in cage parts they were using a spool gun. Pretty odd for steel I thought, unless they'd needed multiple guys using multiple welders. Tool of last resort maybe?
Or no other mig gun?
We generally only use the spool gun for thicker Aluminum.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

The Crow is all put together and they're on the way to CA to race Rawlings car. I believe they said the Crow has upsized turbos, 94mm. Other than that it's still got the "Small Block Pontiac" 482.

The Farmbird is done and the freshened up 455 Pontiac dynoed at 507 on gas, but they're adding 2 stages of N2O on top of that.

Mega race is next Mon.

Actually its on Saturday evening.


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by ho428

I couldn't figure out why they said they had to make motor mounts, that none existed for that combo.
I'm assuming that was a made for TV moment.

Ya I thought that was STUPID also...........Pontiac engine in a Pontiac car, Silly!


GTO George

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Actually its on Saturday evening.


GTO George

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Quote from the Discovery Channel..............

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by ho428

I noticed that even though they have a tig rig that when they were tacking in cage parts they were using a spool gun. Pretty odd for steel I thought, unless they'd needed multiple guys using multiple welders. Tool of last resort maybe?
Or no other mig gun?
We generally only use the spool gun for thicker Aluminum.

They said, the cage that Lutz welded was chome moly.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Quote from the Discovery Channel..............

Well DAMN sometimes you have to check things out for yourself ...........lots of info out there ya just have to take time and look.


GTO George

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Ya I thought that was STUPID also...........Pontiac engine in a Pontiac car, Silly!


GTO George

Cold be a pre 70 400 stroker block 455 with only the early motor mount provisions, trying to put it in a late chassis. That will give you fits if you never ran into the problem before. First time I ran into it was putting a 69 428 in a 73 F body chassis. I ended up making the adapter plates before they were available from the aftermarket. I first encountered the problem around 1978-79.

After I made my first set I had quite a few locals that I made them up for before Butler and other vendors were selling them.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Cold be a pre 70 400 stroker block 455 with only the early motor mount provisions, trying to put it in a late chassis. That will give you fits if you never ran into the problem before. First time I ran into it was putting a 69 428 in a 73 F body chassis. I ended up making the adapter plates before they were available from the aftermarket. I first encountered the problem around 1978-79.

After I made my first set I had quite a few locals that I made them up for before Butler and other vendors were selling them.

That was the engine that came out of it.........!


GTO George