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Old 07-20-2013, 09:27 AM
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No, you arrogant dick, I was not talking to you But tell me how you really feal.LOL
we may have to line up by the way things are looking.....you have more et yet to find and I know it. Will be funny watching you and jack with him on one kit.

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Old 07-20-2013, 09:31 AM
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How are you going to make a 1000 HP with CV1s when you cant even do it with E-heads?
Hum. Well the car is showing more than the dyno....In far less than ideal conditions. And i think theres a little left in the same conditions its been out in. We will see how it looks when me and your dads beautiful (by the way) gto line up. Same power right?

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Old 07-20-2013, 09:45 AM
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How are you going to make a 1000 HP with CV1s when you cant even do it with E-heads?
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:46 AM
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you need to quit smoking-

if youre gonna be my mom and point out what I do wrong all the time, then im gonna be yours, bitch
THATJUSTHAPPENED???

and he said biiiaaaatttccchhhh!!!!

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In anticipation of the road trip to Norwalk, we put new tires on the truck, new tires on the trailer and ordered new slicks for the car. However, due to ongoing issues with our "boutique" pieces, the motor is still not together.

As a result, for the second year in a row, we will not make Norwalk. Needless to say, I am seething and frustrated at finding myself in this position - again. Just trying to keep a lid on it. Anyway, good luck to all you guys. Have fun.

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Note: Did a post-dyno tear down and inspection on the 475 motor w/CV-1's. Just not enough time to put it back together, get it in the car, do track testing and nitrous tuning before Norwalk.

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In anticipation of the road trip to Norwalk, we put new tires on the truck, new tires on the trailer and ordered new slicks for the car. However, due to ongoing issues with our "boutique" pieces, the motor is still not together.

As a result, for the second year in a row, we will not make Norwalk. Needless to say, I am seething and frustrated at finding myself in this position - again. Just trying to keep a lid on it. Anyway, good luck to all you guys. Have fun.

DF

Note: Did a post-dyno tear down and inspection on the 475 motor w/CV-1's. Just not enough time to put it back together, get it in the car, do track testing and nitrous tuning before Norwalk.
Dick,

Really sorry to hear this, was hoping to see that thing run @ Norwalk. I'm hope to see you later this fall @ BOP.

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:12 PM
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neither did you!

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neither did you!
lol. closer than you with 41 less cubes..

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:57 PM
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if youre gonna be my mom and point out what I do wrong all the time, then im gonna be yours, bitch
NICE!!!!!

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lol. closer than you with 41 less cubes..
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:29 PM
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LOL!

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Old 07-20-2013, 03:34 PM
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I would like to see a set of CV1 go 7s in my lifetime!


just sayn
In person or do you want me to send you a video?


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Old 07-20-2013, 03:47 PM
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In person or do you want me to send you a video?

If someone can run 6s (Marty P) with a cast iron 62 Traditional Pontiac Head, I would hope that you could break into the 7s with a CV-1 Head with boost.

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:21 AM
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Sigh...Face palm...throw up in my mouth a little. YOU are trying way to hard to justify the difference in performance by assigning a time frame? Look, if i had those heads they woulda either belted out some real power, got fixed so they did or sold. PERIOD,and all in less than 2 years. So you think if we give everybody with cv1s "more time" they will catch up? I promise you that has nothing to do with it.
So i should go ahead and be impressed in advance and just wait till i finally get beat in a heads up race by them. Of course over this waiting period i wont get faster though...right?

You're living the CV1 dream......no need to wake up.

All this aside I will go on record and say that I am sure I could bust 1000 hp with them. First try...guaranteed. I'll be yawning with a great big sticker waiting for the CV royalty to arrive so I can present it to them.

I'd actually like it gone so I'll lower the bar and just "give it" to any cv car with the stones to line up win or lose. That should be attainable....right?

O.K.....Thanks for proving my point. John (post #110) and yourself (post #111) have both stated that YOU, YOURSELVES could make this a viable head that all of the pisser (including yourselves) could admire. All it will take is time (remember the timeframe thing), money and the will and ability to do so.
That's all I need to confirm.
NOW I feel a whole lot better about all of this bickering...or should I say mindless drivel that 2 professionals have put to rest.
Thank You to all who participated in my experiment.

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:31 AM
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You can put a "race horse" Saddle and Blanket on a Mule, but will the Mule ever win the Kentucky Derby? (No matter what Owner, Trainer, Rider, works with the Mule.)

Now the owner might make a lot of money taking it to the State Fair Races and racing against horses that were just plain slow (so the crowd could cheer) but the owner has an ulterior motive there, making money, not winning the Kentucky Derby race.

Just Saying, When you have money to spend, you can make anything go down the track.

Do not see Marcella or Leech spending THEIR money in that venue or doing the job without getting paid for their knowledge.

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You can put a "race horse" Saddle and Blanket on a Mule, but will the Mule ever win the Kentucky Derby? (No matter what Owner, Trainer, Rider, works with the Mule.)

Now the owner might make a lot of money taking it to the State Fair Races and racing against horses that were just plain slow (so the crowd could cheer) but the owner has an ulterior motive there, making money, not winning the Kentucky Derby race.

Just Saying, When you have money to spend, you can make anything go down the track.

Do not see Marcella or Leech spending THEIR money in that venue or doing the job without getting paid for their knowledge.

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So what YOUR tryin' to say is....if you have a lot of money....
I thought John said that wasn't really TRUE.

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Old 07-21-2013, 06:19 PM
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John M has worked for several Race Shops in the Detroit Area over the years, so at each shop he acquired knowledge and skills. Now he can do a lot of the work himself: Porting work, welding, fabrication, trades with others who have different skills. He LEVERAGES his talents with others. Smart man.

But can the average guy get the same results for the same money? Probably not.
So yes, John can say that he has little money in his race deal but I would say he has a lot of "Blood and Sweat Equity" in his race deal.

Just look at his LSM block lightening deal and price that one operation at LSM.

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Tom, "Duplication costs".

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Old 07-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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Tom, "Duplication costs".
Will work for me, David!

Point is that is water over the dam, they had a chance twice. If using Gaby and John for their stuff.

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Anyone that would turn down help from Gaby or John isn't looking at the bigger picture.

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